repost: Sanders, Orban: ‘democracy’ – 1848+: The End(s) of History

The discussion over the threat to American democracy is somewhat surreal, granting its rightness in the narrower context of free speech, rights, and electoral dynamics, etc… This is only an aspect of ‘real democracy’, to distinguish core democracy and democracy in its larger dimension beyond the baseline. But, (and Sanders knows this we can be confident), the deeper threat to democracy has always existed from day one, and this has been pointed out since day one and a half by everyone from the early socialists to Karl Marx and many others. The point is the American system is not really a democracy and suffers oligarchic domination via capitalism, etc…Thus the defenders of ‘democracy’, more or less ‘bourgeois class’ such defenders, are really defending that oligarchy and/or are agree or not upholding the capitalist status quo, thence suffering the contradiction in their reasoning where the ‘base level’ of democracy is ambiguous. To some degree, the gang of Trump’s base, baseline indeed, dare not claim they can shoot straight, in their ex-working-class/lumpenprole glory, is responding to this systematic doubletalk. The obvious issue is that VIP’s interviewed for handwringing over democracy on CNN are typical fans of ‘bourgeois democracy’ and they have something they might well wish to defend in a subtleties of privilege guaranteed by the double-talk previously referred to. This situation makes ‘true baseline commies’ very frustrated to the point of revolutionary advocations of ‘real socialism’ as real democracy. This issue is ‘news’ but to a closer view has been ‘news’ since the year 1848. The point is that the experts on ‘democracy’ in their handwringing need to consider they are part of the problem, and either put in a good word for the ‘commies’ at baseline or else be party ‘those revolted against’. You have heard enough, you can do the homework here and finish this post yourself. It may be time to re-expose Sanders as a socialist sleeper agent, and get on with a social revolution, socialist musings as three cheers for ‘real democracy’, ‘down with the Triumpian baseline trumpenproles’.

Source: Sanders, Orban: ‘democracy’ – 1848+: The End(s) of History

Millions of Angry, Armed Americans Stand Ready to Seize Power If Trump Loses in 2024 | Portside

Mike “Wompus” Nieznany is a 73-year-old Vietnam veteran who walks with a cane from the combat wounds he received during his service. That disability doesn’t keep Nieznany from making a living selling custom motorcycle luggage racks from his home in Gainesville, Georgia. Neither will it slow him down when it’s time to visit Washington, D.C.—heavily armed and ready to do his part in overthrowing the U.S. government.

Source: Millions of Angry, Armed Americans Stand Ready to Seize Power If Trump Loses in 2024 | Portside

Sanders, Orban: ‘democracy’ – 1848+: The End(s) of History

The discussion over the threat to American democracy is somewhat surreal, granting its rightness in the narrower context of free speech, rights, and electoral dynamics, etc… This is only an aspect of ‘real democracy’, to distinguish core democracy and democracy in its larger dimension beyond the baseline. But, (and Sanders knows this we can be confident), the deeper threat to democracy has always existed from day one, and this has been pointed out since day one and a half by everyone from the early socialists to Karl Marx and many others. The point is the American system is not really a democracy and suffers oligarchic domination via capitalism, etc…Thus the defenders of ‘democracy’, more or less ‘bourgeois class’ such defenders, are really defending that oligarchy and/or are agree or not upholding the capitalist status quo, thence suffering the contradiction in their reasoning where the ‘base level’ of democracy is ambiguous. To some degree, the gang of Trump’s base, baseline indeed, dare not claim they can shoot straight, in their ex-working-class/lumpenprole glory, is responding to this systematic doubletalk. The obvious issue is that VIP’s interviewed for handwringing over democracy on CNN are typical fans of ‘bourgeois democracy’ and they have something they might well wish to defend in a subtleties of privilege guaranteed by the double-talk previously referred to. This situation makes ‘true baseline commies’ very frustrated to the point of revolutionary advocations of ‘real socialism’ as real democracy. This issue is ‘news’ but to a closer view has been ‘news’ since the year 1848. The point is that the experts on ‘democracy’ in their handwringing need to consider they are part of the problem, and either put in a good word for the ‘commies’ at baseline or else be party ‘those revolted against’. You have heard enough, you can do the homework here and finish this post yourself. It may be time to re-expose Sanders as a socialist sleeper agent, and get on with a social revolution, socialist musings as three cheers for ‘real democracy’, ‘down with the Triumpian baseline trumpenproles’.

Source: Sanders, Orban: ‘democracy’ – 1848+: The End(s) of History

The last revolution….from the left, if it can resolve its failed legacy…//America is now in fascism’s legal phase  

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The left is chanting the same old Marxist mantras and they don’t work. You have to refresh your terms and analyze your failures. After Bolshevism the left must move on in a hurry, sever connections to the old and create new terms of discourse. Those can certainly be socialist but here we have renounce ‘communism’ for neo-communism, for example.

Original comment, perhaps set aside. We have advised against dialectic in Samkhya: Ancient and Modern, and the argument below shows both the insights and delusions/muddle there.

An interesting article but we need to consider that the failure of left revolution, and the shallowness of marxism, have bequeathed revolution to the right, next to the outstanding generators of fascism as such. A new left must reclaim the revolution, and none too soon because fascism in proceeding apace in the cleverness of the hidden puppet strings for such as Trump. The left has never gotten the issue of revolution right and has simply generated counterrevolution. But this dialectic will backfire on the right as a strange kind of third factor of resolution enters to create an ending that is a beginning. Dialectical arguments are not sound logic but this makes funny sense here. The point is to be wary of endless repetition of the first affirmative aspect and recreate the resolution to a counterrevolution with a novel counter-counterrevolution.
I wouldn’t bet money on such an argument but it is true that the current right is seeding its own counter-counterrevolutionary revolution redux…Hope that helps. The point is that if a dialectic goes A B C it will actually have six forms: A C B, B A C, etc, and maybe B A C = new A: as the dialectic of revolution yields to counterrevolution and then to some unknown resolution, one can reaffirm a new starting point in the rubble of counterrevolution??? The point here is that the new revolution is going to be different from the original starting point.

The US’s history of racism is fertile ground for fascism. Attacks on the courts, education, voting rights and women’s rights are steps to toppling democracy

Source: America is now in fascism’s legal phase | The far right | The Guardian