A remarkable change on the left: the truth about 9/11 gets a hearing…//Lies About How the Attack on Afghanistan Started – CounterPunch.org

This is one of the first articles in the mainstream progressive left to consider the false flag operation by the US behind 9/11, at Counterpunch which has one other dissenter: Paul Craig Roberts several years ago. I think the interpretation here is still slightly off: I am not sure but I think that the 9/11 operation was really a US/covert agency/Mossad operation all along and that the Saudis were set up patsies. But this breakthrough article should be a wake-up call for the rest of the left. The exact history of the confusion over 9/11 is confused but Mossad has been charged with a hidden hand in the creation of the Truther movement and figures like Chomsky (and Cockburn at CP) have most strangely been part of the disinfo campaign. Chomsky is hard to understand here. An investigative journalist of his caliber has to be aware of the facts of the case which takes about an hour of Internet research if you can get past the first page in the rigged Google search. So Chomsky’s apparent deception here is baffling.
And it is a disgrace that lists like Marxmail still to this day can’t even discuss the issues online.
That said, it is easy to see that the US was involved but getting the real facts right is hard and still ongoing.

What is the truth about the 9/11 attacks on New York?According to the testimony given by CIA insider Susan Lindauer, the CIA knew about the planned attacks on the World Trade Center as early as April, 2001. According to Lindauer, it was realized that airplanes striking the buildings would not cause their collapse, and so the disaster was deliberately made worse than it otherwise would have been by US government agents who planted explosives.Other evidence supports Lindauer’s testimony. Numerous people in New York saved samples of the dust produced by the collapse of the WTC buildings, and chemical analysis of the dust showed the presence of nanothermite, a powerful heat-producing compound which seems to have been used to melt the steel framework of the strongly constructed skyscrapers. Videos of the collapse of the buildings, especially Building 7, show them falling freely, in the manner of controlled demolition. The videos also show molten steel pouring out of the buildings. Furthermore, pools of recently-melted steel were found in the ruins, before these were sealed off from the public. An ordinary fire does not produce temperatures high enough to melt steel. New York Fire Department workers reported hearing numerous explosions in the WTC buildings before they collapsed.

Source: Lies About How the Attack on Afghanistan Started – CounterPunch.org

Strange Crusaders: Diary of the Afghan War – CounterPunch.org: a useful propaganda org for the US coverup of 9/11

This is the usual kind of brazen deception in the interpretation of 9/11 as the anniversary arrives against. The ‘miracles of logistical calculation’ could never have been accomplished by Osama Bin Laden or any group of that kind. Only the resources at the level of government itself, probably the action of the covert agencies including Mossad, could have pulled off 9/11. And with various associated figures such as the owner who took out a billion-plus dollar insurance policy next to the prior knowledge in Wall Street circles, that made the false flag op a windfall for many.

The onslaughts on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon are being likened to Pearl Harbor and the comparison is just. From the point of view of the assailants the attacks were near miracles of logistical calculation, timing, courage in execution and devastation inflicted upon the targets.

Source: Strange Crusaders: Diary of the Afghan War – CounterPunch.org

 Capitalism sabotages itself

It is perhaps harsh to critique marxists such as the fellows at marxmail. The left went into a funk after 1989 and never recovered and lists such as marxmail slip into a kind of daze or walking trance. Who can actually do anything: the long run of the second international was defeated and the reign of the capitalist bourgeoisie now seems beyond challenge. In fact, not so. As so often the reigning powers undo themselves and end up in self-sabotage. Their stance on climate change is a clear example, and subtly foolish indeed, as it generates the danger of planetary collapse, ‘your fault, and you knew all along’ and soon ‘stare down the gun barrel of enraged planet earthers’. There a dozen ways capitalism could have preserved itself by dealing with its own mistakes. No such luck, double down on catastrophe, take profits as long as possible, retreat to bunkers in Sweden and rid the planet of many billions. In fact, time’s up.
That’s about the size of it: the capitalist regime suddenly is seen as criminal, suicidal, genocidal, and…unnecessary. Who needs fossil-fueled cars. But the grip of the capitalist mafia is very strong, it is not clear how its domination is to be broken, until it breaks itself.
The climate catastrophe shows the answer. The recent hurricane Ida prompted the pols out of their morgue into pledges ‘we must act now’. The last chance for reformist change at least is here. After that the capitalist will have left a helpless multitude no other chance save revolution.
My critique of Marx is impossible for Marxists, e.g. at marxmail, along with breaking out of the stupidity of the 9/11 coverup. The latter shows how the powers that be learned how to fix the left in a subtle brainwashing. How did it happen? We can see now the final last straw: the criminal US dot.gov can murder its own citizens to stage a war on terror as a way to fulfill Mossadic goals of destroying the middle east, but let the yanks do it for us.
Marx’s theories need an upgrade. The classic canon as a whole is flawed and now inert.
It is a situation easy to correct, on paper, but the inertia of the left here could prove as fatal as climate change.
We have a short text on this: Postcapitalist Futures: The Last Revolution.

Source: Actually I’m just getting started…as we used to say as kids, ‘we now take prisoners, beg for mercy…’///Good riddance to the deadbeat pseudo-leftists at marxmail – 1848+: The End(s) of History

Actually I’m just getting started…as we used to say as kids, ‘we now take prisoners, beg for mercy…’///Good riddance to the deadbeat pseudo-leftists at marxmail

A final email to the marx group so-called moderator who destroyed the start of a good discussion
at the baren and mentally closed marxmail list.
It is sad, the left has died of anemia and any radical so-called group that can discuss the fascist
9/11 coup is at a deadend.

the closed cults of marxists
From: Nemonemini
To: les.schaffer@gmail.com ; marxmail@groups.io
Date: Mon, Sep 6, 2021 11:43 pm
Mr. Schaffer: I was just on the verge of a fruitful discussion on the list and you interrupted that and destroyed it. To excommunicate people for  trying to discuss 9/11 is a malevolent act, and the signature of the latent stalin ism in the marxist left.
That’s a completely shitty and Stalinist thing to do. These marx groups are suffering a kind of anemia and the people in them
could never lead a revolutionary transformation to anything by a deadend.
And this incident shows the problem.
In one stroke you create emnity for no good reason except your own group fundamentalism and violent
stalinist antagonism even to fellow socialists.

good riddance in any case