The false debate over ‘intelligent’ design

I am critical of ID and its websites (the two here Uncommon Descent and Evolution News) but they often as here find interesting articles. And their critiques are often good but the whole game is biased by theological issues, and becomes erroneous. The idea of ‘intelligent’ design is one I can accept. With quotes around … Continue reading  The false debate over ‘intelligent’ design

  Ironies of ‘intelligent’ design terminology

++We can reiterate our point from yesterday’s post: The debate over design and ‘intelligent design is almost intractable but a strange irony lurks in the debate: If we are wary of the term ‘intelligent’ we can use the idea of ‘intelligent’ (in quotation marks) design but then we can’t use the false evidence of theistic … Continue reading   Ironies of ‘intelligent’ design terminology

The ID group has wrecked the idea of ‘intelligent design’…The Old Testament is not evidence of intelligent design by god..//Is the universe fine-tuned for life and mind? 

The ID group has a considerable website and have created a good critique of Darwinism, but they should have left it at that. The attempt to inject intelligent design into the debate has confused t he issue as badly as Darwinism and created a false hybrid of bad theology, bad history, and biblical confusion. To … Continue reading The ID group has wrecked the idea of ‘intelligent design’…The Old Testament is not evidence of intelligent design by god..//Is the universe fine-tuned for life and mind? 

 The irony that ‘intelligent design’ works with ‘nature’ but not for the Old Testament…

We have discussed ‘design’ here many times, and ‘intelligent’ design with some cautions. Biologists are often critical of design where in reality it is entirely naturalistic. You use the term ‘intelligetn’ but you can’t point to an agent for the term: design ‘looks’ intelligent metaphorically but has no theistic implications. They protest too much. The … Continue reading  The irony that ‘intelligent design’ works with ‘nature’ but not for the Old Testament…

 ID gang goes into verbiage overdrive on the nasty intelligently designed COVID-19 virus…

Fancy that, the ID gang (right word) has to go into verbiage overdrive when discussing the ‘design’ of the COVID-19 virus The ID movement has always suffered the ambiguity of ‘design’: we have critiqued darwinism, but that doesn’t mean we adopt any theological implications of design/ We have always p… Source: The limits of the … Continue reading  ID gang goes into verbiage overdrive on the nasty intelligently designed COVID-19 virus…

  Art, evolution and design

A process of interaction so detailed and at such a high level will seem to invoke questions of ‘design’ or even intelligent design. At this point we are ready for that stealth theism: the ID group over a generation has critiqued Darwinism, rightly so. But then the presence of ‘design’ in nature suddenly became ‘intelligent’ … Continue reading   Art, evolution and design

But what of the ‘eonic effect’:…/Taking Leave of Darwin: A Longtime Agnostic Discovers the Case for Design 

This is a superb book despite my inability to follow through on an atheist’s passage into theistic considerations. But he faces all the problems with Darwin, gives an invaluable history and acknowledges the failure of Dawkins/Darwin on religion. The issue of Bergson comes up most appropriately. But the  idea of a creative force issues paper … Continue reading But what of the ‘eonic effect’:…/Taking Leave of Darwin: A Longtime Agnostic Discovers the Case for Design 

The ‘yahweh’ cargo cult of the Israelites…//The eonic effect: a design argument that needs ‘atheism’?…//Stephen Meyer: The Evidence “Cries Out” for God, Not the Other Way Around | Evolution News – Darwiniana

We put ‘atheism’ in quotation marks because it tends to suffer the incoherence of that which it negates. None of the above, is about all we are left with, although negating god ideas remains a roughly ‘operationally relevant strategy applied to any given ‘god’ idea almost always a semantic mess of pottage. The design argument … Continue reading The ‘yahweh’ cargo cult of the Israelites…//The eonic effect: a design argument that needs ‘atheism’?…//Stephen Meyer: The Evidence “Cries Out” for God, Not the Other Way Around | Evolution News – Darwiniana

Evolution and the trap of design arguments

Part of the confusion with Darwinism is the design argument. People like Richard Dawkins are obsessed with natural selection as the answer to the design argument in s proof of atheism. It is the wrong approach. Who cares about the design argument? It proves nothing. Nature is filled with design, and that doesn’t impinge on … Continue reading Evolution and the trap of design arguments