The arrogance, and ignorance of someone like Tucker Carlson is breathtaking. But we are all confused.
Consider: India was producing enlightened yogis already by six thousand years ago (!!) in the Neolithic, before even the rise of Sumer or Dynastic Egypt. European civilization, what to say of the US, was millennia into the future. The US got its first taste of (confused distortions of) yoga in the last generation, and more generally as the ‘new age’ movement emerged around the time of Blavatsky (in fact, the process probably goes back much further, cf. a figure like Schopenhauer). Who is civilizing who? The West and especially the US is still stuck in the third-rate religious muddle of Christianity, a cult turned into a religion by the Roman Emperors that packaged a series of falsities we suspect about the unknown figure ‘Jesus’. Christianity is a degenerated swindle based on religious myths as propaganda, and has become a de facto standard that is totally deadening to its adherents. Its cheap and misleading claims for salvation should be of concern to bunko squads. The Indic tradition produced Jainism which seems to have been in part next to the Upanishadic type legacies (with Hinduism in the background) the source of the massive Buddhist religion which emerged in parallel with the almost primitive Judeo-Christian legacy which spawned a degenerate monotheism as pop theism, a vulgarization that still persists in its confusions to this day. Note that Christianity shows a connection in parallel with Mahayana, with its artificial memes of the ‘savior religion’, but which eliminate the essential legacy of meditation for the completely misleading legacy of ‘prayer’.
In any case the modern transition which starts in Europe rapidly created a diffusion field (which we call globalization) and which began to spread in India already in the nineteeth century in parallel and almost before the American world came into existence. Althought the Reformation does in fact give Christianity a track into modernity, in reality that religious convulsion (with its century of violence) almost exhausted its potential at the start as the modern transition rapidly transits into the Enlightenment period and the realm of modern science. Christianity appears to be steadily but slowly declining, as is to be expected but its successors as secular humanism, Marxist ideology, and much else, have their own problems.
So, Tucker Carlson’s remark about ‘civilizing’ is grotesque. It is true that the modern transition moves to create a new form of civilization, but in the case of India and China confronts modernist ideology beyond its technology and economic clout fails to really recreate or refound a complete social ideology, especially in the wake of capitalism and its imperialistic aspects.
The relative aspects of so many civilizations in sequence and parallel need careful study of the dynamics and the diffusion fields as cataloged in the eonic model.
I don’t think the issue was civilizing India, though any number of imperialists might have thought so.
I is useful to consider the eonic model and its global action which staged an eonic transition and this was a global action.
The tragedy is that the distinction of system action and free action results in these transitions losing control and falling to imperialists.
India hardly needed ‘civilizing’ but it did require a transition to a new epoch in the eonic sequence. Many Indians thought so but the colonialists ruined everything.
The danger lies in the way the source transitions must expand via diffusion fields and these are liable to fall into chaotification.
The whole thing was botched by the imperialists. Note the immense heritage via the eonic sequence in classic India, and before that in the Neolithic.
It is helpful to study the full model and its modern ‘frontier effect’, cf. Decoding World History….
Let’s note that Marxists suffered the same fate with their best intentions and internationals followed by the Bolshevik fiasco which outdid by a mile the worst of Indic colonial/imperialist phase…
Re: [marxmail] So, the British Empire civilized India
From: Michael Karadjis
Date: Fri, Sep 16, 2022 9:00 am
It’s entirely consistent then that Carlson similarly thinks Russian imperialist occupation is not such a bad thing for Ukraine.
On Fri, 16 Sep. 2022, 10:38 pm Mark Lause, wrote:
This was the view promulgated in all “respectable” quarters for generations, so the statement alone just makes him a run of the mill two-bit imperialist.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 7:03 PM John Edmundson wrote:
Does that make Carlson a fascist, an idiot, or just willfully ignorant?
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022, 03:14 Michael Yates, wrote:
The fascist, Tucker Carlson, said that the British Empire civilized India. He should be stomped on by a hundred thousand Indians and his remains fed to tigers. Read the account of Prabhat and Utsa Patnaik (Capital and Imperialism: Theory, History, and the Present) for the truth of the matter. Britain in India was an unending nightmare of oppression and violence for the Indian people.